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Peter, I have over 18 year electronics experience. Formal electronics training from the Marine corps Specialized in radio repair. Was seriously considering working for the airlines maintenance field but I keep noticing this A&P License ordeal... What is an A&P License? Where does one take classes for this A&P License? And how long does the schooling take on average? I live in Sacramento, CA. Thanks for your time. Sincerely, David
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Hi David, Sounds like you are more qualified than required for an FCC Radio telephone license. I would think that you would get that as soon as possible. As for the A&P it requires either completion of an FAA approved school(usually about 20 months long) military experience of thirty months or on-the-job experience of thirty months for both. The problem lies with the fact that the FAA will determine your qualifications on your experience in the military. I am not sure but I think that although you have vast electronics experience it would be difficult to prove you are qualified for an airframe license unless you have had experience in such things as hydraulics, sheet metal,welding,materials and processes etc. It certainly would be worth while to schedule a meeting with an FAA inspector in your area and see what they think of your experience.

Best of luck, Pete

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Hi Peter, I got out of the navy at the end of feb 03, how can I go about getting my powerplants license. I have 6 yrs expierience working on turboprops and turbofan engines. Can I just take a study course an go take the powerplants test or how can I go about it? Thank u, James
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Hi James, As You may already know much of the powerplant test is on recips so you will need to do lots of studying. Anyway, the first thing you need to do is to make an appointment with the nearest FAA Flight Standards Office and take your military job function forms with you. It used to be called a DD214 but I don't know if that is still the case. They have a guidance book that they look at to determine to what extent you are qualified to test. Once they approve you for the written exams you can get all the study books you can find to get ready. After you pass the writtens with a 70% on each subject area you can schedule the practical exam with an independent examiner such as myself. The oral and practical test for the General Section and the Powerplant will take the better part of one full day. I don't know how long the writtens take.

Good luck and email me back if you have any more questions. Pete

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Hi Peter, I have been in the Air Force for 3+ years now as a Jet Propulsion mechanic and want to earn my A&P license. I was thinking about getting a study guide for my Powerplant (reciprocating Engines) and then taking classes for my Airframe. I heard that if you get your powerplaqnt license first that it cuts your Air Frame requirements down to a minimum. If this is the case do you have any good recommendations for powerplant study material? Thanks, Justin
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Hi Justin, You will still need the approval of the local FAA after they review your military qualifications to test for a powerplant license but I would think they will probably deem you qualified. As for the Airframe, my opinion is that your military experience will not count for much there since you say your specialty is jet maintenance so you will either have to attend an approved school or get some on-the -job training for eighteen months. There is no truth to what you may have been told the airframe requirements are any less because one obtains a Powerplant license first. The only time I know that there is a time reduction is when a person works under supervision to obtain both licenses.

Best of Luck. We need more mechanics. Pete

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Pete, I recently got out of the Marine Corps after 9.5 years and have worked on multiple helicopters. I worked for 5 years in the flightline shop and have an extended background in powerplants, drivetrains, and flight controls. I was a crewchief with 1500 flight hours and a planecaptain. For the Last 4 years I have held a Quality Assurance billet on 3 type model helicopters I was full systems on all three aircraft,(flightline, Avionics, and Airframes) while I have no formal training in the airframes and avionics it is all OJT. What would you recommend about the airframes portion. All my time for that side is inspecting, very little hands on. Rick
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Richard, From what you tell me I would think you more than qualified to take both the Airframe and Powerplant tests. I would suggest you take your military job descriptions and evaluations to the nearest FAA immediately and have them assess you experience. I think you will be found to be quite qualified to test.

Regards, Pete

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Hello Peter; Can you tell me if there are any A&P Schools in the Southern Florida area for someone who has all ready received authorization to test. I am looking for a 1 week school where I can get it done. I will travel if I need to as well. Thanks; Jim
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Hi Jim, I really don't keep track of the "prep schools" around the country but I thought there was one in Tennessee. You could probably find a couple listed if you purchased a copy of Trade-A-Plane newspaper.

Good Luck, Pete

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Hello Peter, I was in the military for 6 years working on helicopter engines and drive systems. I called the FAA and will be scheduling an appointment to take the test to see if I can qualify for the mechanics certificate, I'm not trying for the Airframes, I wouldn't feel comfortable being certified in Airframes yet. I was wondering if you know of any study material that can help me with this test to prepare me because my experience is limited to just one aircraft. Thank you for your help. Allison
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Hi Allison, I am glad you asked because I have a couple suggestions for you. I often test applicants for powerplant tickets who have been in the military and the biggest problem they have is inexperience with reciprocating engines. Although the FAA may sign you off as" qualified to test" there are many subject areas that you will need to know well that haveÊonly aÊlittle connection to turbine engines. Some are: ignition systems( magnetos), engine electrical,Êpropellers, lubrication, etc. I would suggest that you purchase the FAA Advisory training books AC65. It is a series of three books I believe that deal with General, Powerplant and Airframes. These are what you need to learn the necessary theories. Just purchasing the "Fast Track" study guides will only get you answers, not understanding. I also tell prospective military applicants that I feel they must get some hands-on Êexperience on recip engines before I will test them. The reason is that the test is primarily based on these engines, not turbines. You will also need the compilation of federal regulations that apply to mechanics and don't forget the AC43.13-1B and 2A. This is the "bible" for mechanics to work from. Hope this helps a bit. I am not trying to scare you but help you be prepared when you take the orals and practicals. This seems to be where folks have the most difficulty.

Good luck, Pet

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Hi Pete, I am currently finsihing up my A&P school. I currently have an airframe license, and I have 4 yrs. experience with the Navy on aircraft hydraulic systems. I am a little confused about the path I should take on getting a job. The A&P field seems so vast. It seems every ad I look at for a job be it commercial or general aviation want 2-5 yrs. experience on their type of aircraft. What should I do to narrow down the choices. Thank you for your help. Richard
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Hi Richard, Good luck with your testing. I guess most of us would prefer a mechanic with some experience. This is especially true in light plane maintenance. One has to be proficient in so many areas to be valuable to a small shop. I think the airlines are more likely to hire inexperienced mechanics. I would think you would have a good shot with an airline in their hydraulics shop. They should love someone with that experience, I certainly would. I am sure there are also many opportunities with smaller shops though. We know everyone has to start somewhere.

Best of Luck, Pete

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Hi Peter, I'm a private pilot that belongs to a private flying association that owns most of their planes. Since I'm considered a part owner we can participate in part 43 maintenance on the planes the club owns. My question is can I keep track of this time and use it towards getting my A&P license? Thanks for the help. Leon
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Hi Leon. Anything you do to your own aircraft does not count towards an A&P license. The logic is that just because you are allowed to do basic functions doesn't necessarily mean that you are doing it properly and understand the whys of the operation. I am sure you understand. The only experience that would count(other than military or school) is if you are employed full time in the maintenance business working under the supervision of a mechanic for a concurrent thirty months for both tickets. Remember one more thing, the exact same limitations are imposed on you as an owner performing maintenance as they are to me. That is to say, you must have whatever tools and manuals are required to perform this work. You must also sign and date the log entry with your name and pilot certificate number and add a brief description of the work performed.

Happy flying. Pete

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Peter, My name is Robert, I have just relocated to Columbus,OH. I left a major aircraft Corp. Working a sheetmetal/assembly position. My question is after having 30 months with this company doing various duties associated with building and assembling parts to various aircraft. What is my steps in approaching the FAA in regards to obtaining an A&P certification allowing me to hire on with corporations desiring qualified mechanics? I am 33 and have numerous skills pertaining to engines and metal fabrication, and troubleshooting! Can You help Please... Sincerely, Robert
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Hi Robert, You told me roughly what your job duties were, unfortunately, this probably will not come close to qualifying you to take both the airframe and powerplant tests. In total there are some 34 subject areas that must be met to qualify. While the FAA may allow you some credit towards the airframe, from what you have said, you wouldn't get any credit towards a powerplant license. Take your pay stubs and a letter from your employer stating exactly all the things you did to the local FAA office and see what they say. The entire process has tightened up so don't expect you get too much credit unless you performed many of the airframe functions such as welding, dopes and paints, electrical systems, weight and balance, instruments, corrosion control, atmospheric systems, fire systems, sheet metal etc. As you can see your experience would have to be quite varied to qualify.

Good luck to you. Pete

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I have heard that the FAA is going to change the rules regarding the way they license mechanics. Instead of an A&P license that allows you to work on virtually anything that fly they will issue licenses based on catagories of aircraft/helicopters. And even sub-categorizing the license by wiehgt of the aircraft or prop vs jet's etc... Is this true? And if so, where can I find more information on the subject. Jeff
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Hi Jeff, What you have heard is a story that is now quite old. The FAA decided to rewrite FAR65 for mechanics and their certification and renumber it FAR66. It did include a provision to separate turbine and recip mechanics. Overall, the rewrite met with such great objections by industry that they decided to shelf the new proposed regulation and start again. We will probably not hear about it for a few years.

Pete

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I'm 17 allready in delayed entry to the airforce I signed for 6 yrs. as an aerspace purpulsion apprentice (jet engine mech.)everyone has told me that the military screws with you by only training you in a specific area. How can I come out of there with an A&P license? Mark
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Hi Marc, I think I know how you feel. I was a military mechanic as well, so I know how they specialize in their training. My big benefit was that I was already a licensed A&P when I joined. To be real clear, experience through the military is one alternative way to become qualified to take the tests. The most desirable way is to attend a full time FAA approved school. With that said, it is highly unlikely if you are trained as a jet engine mechanic that you will be qualified to apply for and take airframe test. The reason is of course you will not have had any training in all those subject areas required. I really don't see how you can get around this unless you are stationed at a military facility that "cross-uses" their personnel. Keep in mind, even if you are allowed to take the powerplant test you will need to do lots of additional studying because your military training will be insufficient to pass all the areas.

Best of luck, Pete

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Peter, Currently I am pilot and working my way through my ratings, but would also like to work toward an AMP certificate as well (why not fix what you fly). I tried taking classes at the local community college, but work takes me out of town too much to complete the classes. Can you recommend some books that I can use for self-study (hopefully with some knowledge I can work part-time under an AMP)? My research, from the class I did take, referenced Dale Crane, but he has a number of books, I am not really sure of a good starting place. Thanks, Matt
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Hi Matt, You mention an idea that many pilots think about. But, just as a mechanic would have to take the required training to become a licensed pilot, so does a pilot who desires to become a mechanic. There are no provisions to work part time to earn this experience. The FAA feels the only acceptable substitute for formal schooling and school practical experience is either military experience or full time working as sort of an apprentice mechanic. If this avenue is pursued, you must have 18 months of continuous experience for one rating or 30 months concurrent for both. I am sure that you understand there are 43 different subject areas that we have to know quite a bit about so it takes a fair amount of training. Although we always need new mechanics, if you can't dedicate the time to an approved maintenance school, perhaps you would do best just earning your pilot ratings.

Good luck, Pete

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Peter, I worked the last 18 month under a IA towards my certificate.However we had a falling out and I'm now looking for another job. Is there any set amount of time that I need to get my 30 month in before the time isn't any good? Kathy H
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Hi Kathy, The most recent FAA interpretation for work experience is that you must have the three years "concurrently". They are not allowing big breaks in the work. You need to connect with another shop immediately. Also, save your pay stubs and any training records(if you receive any). The work experience is being looked at much closer than it was years ago. You must really prove that you have been working full time for this period in many cases.

Good luck, Pete

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I am interested in aircraft restoration. I would like to get my A&P license, and purchase some older 150's and restore them for resale. Is there people doing this? Is there money to be made? As a new A&P could I do this kind of work? Robert
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Hi Robert, There are actually a couple parts to your question. I may be stating something you already know, so don't get upset if I do. There are only three ways to become eligible to take the A&P tests. The first is to attend an approved school for about 18-20 months. This is quite expensive but the best way to learn all about the 43 subject areas that mechanics deal with. The second is to have military experience in the required fields. This may qualify you in some or all areas. The third is to work fore thirty months under the supervision of a licensed mechanic. This experience must be concurrent and you would be required to show evidence of the work by pay slips, etc. There is some money to be made(although probably not on Cessna 150's), in restoring aircraft, but the FAA regulations do require that you have either experience in what you are working on or else work with someone. In closing, I certainly don't want to discourage you, but this is a very, very technical field, and it requires many years of practice to get to a point where you can master it alone.

Good Luck, Pete

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Peter, My son has been a Aviation Machinist mate 2nd class in the Navy, who will be getting out in August. Presently aboard a carrier overseas he cannot contact anyone for job requests. On his behalf I have been searching the internet to find out how he can get a job in aviation as a mechanic when he gets out. He is versed in jet engine, hyd's, system computers, brakes, fuel systems and landing gear. Do you have a source for him to go to for info. Thanks Jim T.
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Hi Jim, Most positions for mechanics require that the individual have an airframe and powerplant mechanics license issued by the FAA. This normally takes one and one half years of technical school to obtain. We do have a provision, though to get this license through military experience. If he can demonstrate to the FAA by his military records that he has worked in the many required phases of a/c maintenance for three years, he can be "signed off" to take the written tests. Let me be entirely candid here, though. Without a lot of studying he would not pass the written exams. They entail many subject areas such as propellers, magnetos, etc. that one would not normally be associated with in the Navy( I was there myself). After the written tests are passed, folks such as myself are authorized to conduct the practical tests on these same subject areas. The practical test for both the A&P will last about two days. For these reasons I suggest that even if he is found qualified to take the FAA tests, he consider attending one of these "prep" schools, which last a couple weeks. This really helps to prepare someone who has not attended A&P school for the test. I hope this gives you a little background to help your son.

Regards, Pete

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Hi Peter, I have a Bachelors degree in engineering and have spent 15 years in development and manufacturing of composite structures for Boeing. About 3 years ago I got my pilots license and started thinking that I would really like to get my A&P rating. What type of training and certification, beyond the A&&P, would it take for me to start a repair shop for composite aircraft parts big or small. I was also wondering if there is a market for independent repair company's that would travel to do field repairs for company's who don't have composite repair capability or would find it more cost effective to hire these services.Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Don W.
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Hi Don, IO would think there is a real need for someone with your expertise. I have never been much on composites and yet a couple insurance companies asked us to get into it to repair high performance glass sailplanes. You could probably have a certified repair station without even having an A&P license.

Go for it. Pete

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I have been working with an A&P AI for about 15 months. I have been working for experience, not money (no stubs), so the only proof I have is customers and pilots and that he is 80 years old and unable to do most of the physical work. How do I go about getting my A&P now? He said he used to be able to sign off, but now he believes it has to be an examiner. We have no idea whom to contact. Thank you, Charles
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Hi Charles, To my knowledge, an individual could never " sign someone off", but merely verify work experience. You could have a problem if there are no pay stubs, but many FAA inspectors will still accept a notarized letter from him stating what you have been doing. Of course, the minimum experience for one license is eighteen months and for both is 30 months concurrently. I would suggest that you visit a local FAA office and meet with an inspector who is allowed to sign off mechanic applicants(this person must be a licensed mechanic). Honestly explain your situation and experience and see if a letter will suffice for proof-of-experience. They will probably quiz you a bit to see that you really do have some knowledge in all the required subject areas.

Good Luck, Pete

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I was a Jet engine mech. for 6 years in the Air Force and I have been out since '88. I have recently thought about getting back into working on jets. Would I need to go back to school for training or would I be able to test with just a refresher (if available). Thanks Joe D.
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Hi Joe, As far as I know, experience is experience. There is no time when it expires. However, the fact that you have only turbine experience very much may limit you. What you need to do is to take your DD214 form and any experience records from the military and show them to an FAA inspector who is a mechanic.(not all are) This person will then evaluate your military experience(not military schooling, though) and allow you a certain amount of credit towards an A&P. With all this said, probably the best thing you could do for yourself would be to get some additional training in the many subject areas that pertain to reciprocating engines. My guess is that you would possibly qualify to take the powerplant tests, but not the airframe.

Good Luck, Pete

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Hi Peter, I'm a holder of an a/p license since '87. I', from Toronto Canada, and there not much here.....What are the possibilities of employment in the U.S.A. All of my experience is on light a/c and the bell 212 helicopter. Thanks, Bobby N
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Hi Bob, Come on down, we need mechanics in the US, especially light aircraft mechanics. I can't remember the last time anyone walked into my shop looking for a job. At least someone with experience. You should do well here.

Pete

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Could you explain the requirements of a current A&P license? And how to get the license current? Charles G.
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Hi Charles, If you dig out your copy of FAR65 and go to section 83 you will find the requirements for recent experience for us mechanics. Basically, you need to work under supervision for a while.

Pete

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Mr. Conner, I am a commercial and military pilot with over 3500 hours in heavy jets. I am interested in expanding my aviation background by taking courses towards an A&P license. Are there any quality schools out there that the courseware can be completed by correspondance? Would it be possible for me to complete my A&P license in the future while working for a major airline (as a pilot) at the same time? Thanks. Dan C.
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Hi Dan, Unfortunately, I don't think there is any provision to obtain an A&P without attending an approved school. The reason is that there is an FAA requirement for a great deal of practical shop time. There is no way to qualify for a license using practical experience unless it is 30 months concurrently for both tickets. They have clamped down a lot on this and sometimes even require pay stubs to be produced. The schools are usually less than 18 months, maybe you can fit it.

Good Luck, Pete

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A friend of mine wants to take the airframe mechanical & powerframe (would that be what you call A&P?) exam here in Florida, but he has been getting conflicting information (to say the least) from everyone he talked to. Would you know where to take this exam and how much it is? If not, could you direct us somewhere we can get answers? Mauricio T.
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Hi Mauricio, If your friend is receiving conflicting advise, it sounds to me as though he really hasn't been to the FAA local office and found qualified to take the test in the first place. Is this the case? Usually, someone who has met the qualifications knows how to proceed. If the FAA has signed him off for three consecutive years of experience or if he has graduated from an approved school then he will have the correct paperwork and he can take the written test at an approved computer testing center there. AS far as the practical test is concerned, each of us as a Designated Mechanic Examiner may charge a reasonable fee. There is no set amount. Each local FAA office has a list of the people in there area who are authorized to conduct the practical test. There aren't all that many of us. In the Boston area there are five mechanics who are designated as examiners. Your friend should visit the local FAA office to get started.

Regards, Pete

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I am currently in USAF and I am separating end of November. I have my FCC A&P license. I'm heading to CT mass area and looking for a job. do you know of any good web sites or any one looking for a good mechanic in that area. Bill
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Hi Bill, You mention FCC A&P. Do you mean FAA, or do you have an FCC license and an FAA license? You might try contacting East Coast Aero Tech School. I would imagine they have a few leads you could try. Also, get a copy of the monthly newspaper Atlantic Flyer. There are always job openings there. If you can't find their addresses, get back to me. ECAT is in Bedford MA and the paper is in CT.

Pete

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I Have an A&P Lic. that is 20 years old. I havent used it during this time. My question is what would it take to get it current and able to sign log books. Thanks ,Terry
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Hi Terry. The federal regulation of part 85 has a paragraph which is numbered 83, and it speaks to your situation. Basically, it says that you must work under someone supervision for six months. There are a couple other things mentioned also, so you should check out this reference for yourself.

Pete

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Dear Peter I am a CAA licensed engineer with licenses in all avionic categories, electrical, instrument, autopilot, radio and radar. I also hold company approval on B767, B757 and B737 3/4/500. I also have a degree in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering. I am still a UK citizen but I am marrying a US citizen with a view to living in the US from the summer. How do I go about obtaining the A&P and once I have them will my current inspector authorizations be valid on those aircraft I have completed a JAR145 approved course on? Also what are my prospects in obtaining a job in the US based on my current qualifications and what is the approximate salary I could expect to earn? Hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Adrian
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Adrian, You certainly have some excellent qualifications. Is your degree in A/C Maint. Engin. the equivalent to our A&P or is it an actual engineering degree? I would suggest that you visit an FAA office and present your qualifications to them. They can evaluate your experience and determine you eligibility for an A&P license. I do not believe that as a general observation, that your inspection approvals will count for anything extra here, unless you happen to become employed by an air carrier using that equipment. I would think they would recognize it for sure. I really would not want to guess at pay scales. They vary with type of employment as well as geographical areas of our country.

Good luck to you. Pete

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I am a A-10A crew chief working in the phase inspection dock in the airforce. I received my authorization to test for my a and p license at 24 months of airframe experience for the general test and airframe test do I have to wait until 30 months or 36 months to take the last written test for powerplants. In everything i have read from the FAA all I can find is 18 months for one rating or 30 months for both airframe and powerplant rating. Thanks Dan
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Hi Dan, Good luck with your mechanic testing and pending license. The rule is that one must have 30 months of experience to qualify for both the a and p. Don't be to surprised though, if your military crew chief experience doesn't fill the needs for a powerplant license. You must be able to verify experience with receipts, ignition systems, props etc. The FAA goes by a book of what to allow for certain military experience. Good Luck,

Pete

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Peter I have 25 years experience working with Porsches and Mercedes-Benz. I know that none of this can transfer to be A&P license but how can I get an A&P license without going to school for two years? Start my own business and hire an A&P and than work under him for experience for two years? or work for someone else for two years, get the experience and than go pass the A&P written test. Which one of these can I do? Also what do you have to do to get an AI rating? Thanks
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Hi Mike, I certainly understand the situation you find yourself in. Over the years I have tested many applicants for the A&P license that had extensive mechanical background, and I knew they would make terrific mechanics, however they all still had to meet the training or experience requirements established by the FAA. If you are serious about obtaining your license, move ahead swiftly because when the new federal requirements are released in the near future, it will be more difficult to qualify to take the test if you have not graduated from an approved school. Your idea about starting a repair business and hiring a licensed mechanic is one I had never thought of. I would certainly never discourage anyone from starting their own business, but I believe in the service business you would have a real up hill struggle, since you yourself could not evaluate many decisions from a qualified perspective. My suggestion would be to work for a shop as an A&P apprentice. You must have 18 months of practical experience for a mechanic certificate with a single rating, or thirty months of experience for both ratings. This is not a waivable requirement, in fact the FAA looks carefully at proper documentation such as pay stubs, etc. I hope my opinion helps with your decision. We need more competent mechanics.

Regards, Pete

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Hi Peter: I have been working on an all metal kit, (RV), and I want to know, if any of the experience I have aquired over the last four years, would count towards an A/P license. I have done all the work myself, and should fly soon. Thanks WT
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Hi There, You should have a real nice plane when you are done. I have issued the airworthiness certificates on a couple of these and they seem like nice machines. Unfortunately, for you, the time building a homebuilt cannot count any towards an A&P license. I believe part of the reasoning is that one can perform such an endeavor without any direct supervision and so there is no reason to expect that things have been done according to accepted maintenance practices. After you complete the 40 (or 25) hours of your flight test phase you will be considered eligible to receive a repairman license for that particular aircraft if you apply. I hope this information helps.
Pete

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Hello Peter, I am a 45 year old Air Force trained aircraft electrician. I have 17 years experience with fighters, bombers and NASA research aircraft. I have been involved in every aspect of aircraft maintenance including engines, sheetmetal, hydraulics, pneumatics and avionics. I never got my A&P and am interested in what steps I need to take to get my A&:P now. I still have all my training records from the Air Force. Gary
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Hi Gary, Take those training records and discharge paperwork and get to a local FAA office. They will evaluate your experience and sign you off for a certain amount of work experience(probably everything). With that sign off you can get the necessary books to study for a very, very thorough written test. Once those are passed, you can visit an examiner such as me to take the oral and practical tests. They will take about 10-12 hours for the airframe and powerplant. The important thing is to get the recommendation from the FAA. This may change in the next year or so, so you should do it now.
Good Luck, Pete

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Hi, I am enlisted as an F-16 crew chief in the USAF. I recently obtained my A&P and was looking into purchasing some tools so I had a good set when I get out in November. I know at most places you need your own set to get hired. Can you give me some suggestions on what I will need to survive in the field. Also, what are C&D checks? Branden
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Hi Brandon, We need more mechanics-welcome to the field. First a C or D check is an inspection performed on Transport category aircraft. A D check would be the equivalent of an annual inspection on a light plane, but of course, transport planes don't get annual inspections. About tools, You will need a great 1/4" socket set. You will probably use this the most so get swivel sockets, deep, various extensions and get twelve point. Also, a smaller 3/8" socker set will be necessary for spark plugs, etc. Various pliers, water pumps, dikes, duck bills, needle nose and a couple pair of vise grips. I think you can get by at first with a typical screwdriver set and you should probably invest in an inexpensive torque wrench. Of course you need a ball pin hammer, some punches and whatever else you like. This should get you started.
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Peter, After 18 years of being a commercial pilot I have decided to enroll full-time in an Aviation Maintenance Technician course to get my A&P. Students are, of course, required to have their own tools. I see on the list of required tools that all sockets need to be twelve point. What will a twelve point socket do that a six point won't? Also, for working on aircraft, would you recommend I buy a set of twelve point or six point combination wrenches? Thanks. RC
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Hi RC. I think most of us would rather use twelve point sockets and wrenches. but I would guess the reason the school wants you to have twelve point is because most all hardware on turbine engines ar twelve point. This way you don't need two sers.

Pete

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